Wanna make a half a billion dollars?

First, get a Doctor of Divinity Degree online.  It’s better to also get a PhD in anthropology too, but who has the time for that?

Okay, then create your own church and declare Marilyn Monroe a prophet in your church.

Then buy the rites to Marilyn Monroe’s remains, $2 million oughta do it because the current people who have the rights to her “image” are money hungry scum bags.

Then, exhume whatever is left of Marilyn Monroe and take them in a glass case on display around the world (especially Japan) — museums, exhibits, shows, conventions — make sure the remians can’t be photographed — lighting experts know how to do this.

In 3 years you will make about $500 million — and that’s not counting tangential monies that come from TV appearances and books and whatever.

Don’t let anyone tell you that this is “wrong” because there is a “science” called Egyptology, and in that science they routinely do exactly what I have just described to you.  The funny thing is that they have taken King Tut on a many tours of the world and made an absurd fortune with his mummified remimans and in so doing the experts proclaim “how happy they are that they got to King Tut before the ‘grave robbers’ got him’ – but the experts for some reason are NOT graverobbers.

So, think of yourself as a Hollywood-ology anthropologist and do the same thing.  You need at least $2million to get started, but the return on your investment will be amazing.

This was a nice thing for Whitney to say.  She said it from the heart. 

Whitney Houston was found dead in her hotel and room and the official cause of death might be discovered as early as this evening in that the hotel room is now a scene of investigation.

“Although there were no signs of foul play, that’s what always happens in these cases  where someone is found dead,” said a former LA Detective who is not associated with the case.

“The authorities have to do their jobs as does the coroner.  Her body will go to the LA County morgue where an autopsy must be performed in cases like this.  But if foul play was involved, like if somebody killed her or something, it would be apparent to the detectives on the scene but the exact cause of death would still be in the hands of the medical examiner.  Whitney Houston’s death could be known tomorrow or as far off as 2 months so you never know when that announcement will be made.”

It took a lot of people to put up and dismantle the stage on which Madonna put on her awful halftime show.  Sadly the head of the whole job of assembling and disassembling the entire thing was a man full of hate.

Mario “Jasper” Camstigliero , 89, a stage artist for nearly 75 years, was fired from his job as the head director of masonry and stonework for the Super Bowl Half Time Show construction crew when he used a word that may have gone unnoticed by just about everyone — except a young man who happened to be standing by when Camstigliero used it and quickly reported the verbal insult to Super Bowl authorities.

“The man told the workers to use extra strong floor deodorizer on the folding dance floor while they taking it apart  because all the ‘zootzoons’ who danced with Madonna have smelly feet and don’t take showers,” said 9-year-old Dominico Monduono-Pretti of Indianapolis, IN, USA.  “I know that word because my pop-pop ( great- grandfather) used it all the time before he died and I know that he is better off dead because he did not know about diversity and tolerance.

“I didn’t think it was a nice thing to say because in school we learn that all people are equal and that we should report all hatred to our teachers or law enforcement.  Mrs. and Mrs. Schutty,  our same sex married teachers taught  us that in our “World Culture and Sexual Diversity Class.”

TheDamienZone checked it out and wouldn’t you know it — zootzoon is an actual word that means exactly what the kid said, and because of a keen ear for hate and hate speech instilled into him by his lesbian teachers, old Mario Canstigliero will have to peddle his hatred elsewhere — and he didn’t get to see the last two quarters of the Super Bowl.

“I don’t think it’s fair that some little zootzoon lover and his dike teachers warped his mind like.  What the hell did I say that was so bad?

Still another fake story floating around Facebook — something that NEVER happened and is a complete lie and a hoax and whatever else you want to call the retarded shit people who post on Facebook and “share”  their maudlin and silly crap.  

 The fake story is accompanied by the photo of a flight attendant standing the aisle — it’s juts a stock photo that somebody STOLE to invent a fake story that seems inspirational when in fact it’s just a way to incite racially motivated stupidity.  Guaranteed that one of your dumb facebook friends will share this and it will end up on your newsfeed — DROP THE PERSON WHO SHARES THIS!  THEY ARE STUPID!

Facebook is the last refuge for the truest morons on the face of the earth. There are people in state facilities who have more self control and dignity than the average Facebooker.   MORONS!!!!!

Here is the latest one:  If you get this and you share it, you are an OFFICIAL FACEBOOK MORON!   If you get this and you are not a moron.  CLICK IT OFF AS SPAM and then file it as HATE SPEECH!  If enough people stop these things, FACEBOOK will stop letting morons share them with the public. 

A 50-something year old white woman arrived at her seat and saw that the passenger next to her was a black man.

Visibly furious, she called the air hostess.

“What’s the problem, ma?” the hostess asked her

“Can’t you see?” the lady said – “I was given a seat next to a black man. I can’t seat here next to him. You have to change my seat”

- “Please, calm down, ma” – said the hostess “Unfortunately, all the seats are occupied, but I’m still going to check if we have any.”

The hostess left and returned some minutes later.

“Madam, as I told you, there isn’t any empty seat in this class- economy class. But I spoke to the captain and he confirmed that there isn’t any empty seats in the economy class. We only have seats in the first class.”

And before the woman said anything, the hostess continued

“Look, it is unusual for our company to allow a passenger from the economy class change to the first class. However, given the circumstances, the commandant thinks that it would be a scandal to make a passenger travel sat next to an unpleasant person.”

And turning to the black man, the hostess said:

“Which means, Sir, if you would be so nice to pack your handbag, we have reserved you a seat in the first class…”

And all the passengers nearby, who were shocked to see the scene started applauding, some standing on their feet.”

SHARE IF YOU ARE AGAINST RACISM! <—–entire story is fake fake fake fake fake fake.

   The stupid story going around on Facebook about a woman who had a lot of guns in her car when stopped by a Minnsesota state trooper for a traffic violtaion is a complete hoax.  As a matter of fact, it’s such a hoax that the picture that is being circulated on facebook with a photo of a woman has come under fire because it’s a photo from a family photo of a Mrs. Abagail Armstrong who died in 2002 at age 94 and never had a car or a driver’s license.  The Facebooke “sharers” are truly being fooled – are you one of them?

The story is funny — BUT TOTALLY FALSE!

“I received a message from a friend that pictures of my mother were circulating on Facebook,” said Peter Armstrong, 76, a former Air Force officer and retired airline pilot who lives in San Diego, California USA.

“I instantly thought that perhaps my children or grandchildren had put up  a picture and it somehow got to my friend.  He told me that this was not the case and that I should have a look at it and that I was not going to like it.  Since I do not have a Facebook account, he sent me an email with the photo of my mother and the strange story that went along with it.  I was shocked. 

“That picture was taken at a family reunion in the fall of 2000 by a professional photographer my brother and I had hired because my mother was there with her three sisters and each of them were in their nineties.  This picture is one he took of my mother and a black and white reproduction of the original photo which actually hangs in my living room and each of my children has one as well.  The photo really captured my mother’s face and personality.” 

Armstrong then fired off a call to the photographer only to find that the business was now owned by a different person entirely and that the original photographer, Arial-Hin Arcevo, had returned to his home in Thailand.  The new owner told Armstrong that he was not surprised that a photo of his mother was circulating on the internet.

“I was told that Mr. Arcevo had a good business going in Thailand of selling images of ordinary people for use in greeting cards and other things for public use on the internet.  He was in business here for a long time and in  that time he must have assembled a lot of images.  If he needs an old Asian woman, he has a picture of one and in this case he needed a picture of a grandmotherly American old lady, so my mom’s picture was the one he used.  According to the police in Thailand, what he is doing is not illegal but his images sell to internet sites and other outlets for over $200 or more.”

“My mother had a great sense of humor and was a jolly laugher, but to have people think that my mother was really a gun toting, foul mouthed old lady really hurts.  She would not have liked this at all.  She was diagnosed with congestive heart failure and she died on the Fourth of July in 2002.  One of the things she told me when I visited her was that she hoped people would remember her.  I don’t think this Facebook thing is what she had in mind.”

If you caught Obama’s State of The Union address last night you might have noticed that NY Senator Chuck Schumer was wearing his brand new facelift and botox — it was still shining from the vaseline salve.  He looked very feminine.  He should have invested in hair plugs for the back of his head.  He only has a few rows in the front which he grows long and combs back.  Same as Biden.   He oughta fix that.

Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi was also sporting new facework — lift, botox, peel, and whatever else they could do to her.  She too was shining from vaseline salve. 

The whole thing was hilarious.  Michelle Obama looked pretty.   Prez Obama is starting to look warn out.  Nice speech but really didn’t say anything.  I do like his foreign policy and I think he is gradually becoming a hawk — which is good in these troubled times as Dr. Joyce Brothers says in her Life Alert commercials where she looks like an unwrapped Egyptian mummy.  I think she is about 95 years old — no joke.

Readers:  It was obvious in the previous chapter of transcripts that “Boris Jones” likes to talk.  While there is a certain tedium involved with transcribing a conversation word for word, I think it’s for the best.  After all, he has a story to tell and the more he tells it, the more the story becomes coherent.

It is important to keep in mind that my conversation with Boris went on for hours and hours.  I tried to keep  the tapes of those conversations in some kind of order — something which proved to be virtually impossible.

Conversation with “Boris Smith”  (cont’d) 5 January 2012 — originally posted as Part 19 December 2011.

Me:  So FONVA is not a faith-based organization?  Would I be correct saying that?

Boris:  FONVA is not faith-based by any stretch of the imagination but like I said, it’s easier for people to graduate to the level of FONVA thinking if they are spiritually minded.  The nature of the belief is not important.  The idea is that there are two kinds of human minds.  The vast majority of people believe in some kind of iconic entity and the rest do not.  The, ‘believers’ if you will,  are more likely to find reward from whatever crop of knowledge that is eventually harvested by FONVA — although that might no be for years to come.

Me:  But it has nothing to do with religion.

Boris:  In a sense, the very essence of religious beliefs is the belief that a superior being or beings created human civilization and in a sense that is the complete truth.  Things become corrupted or confusing when the whole concept is perverted by years and years of story-telling and the simplicity of man’s thinking.  Then the word becomes, ‘god’ and the whole thing gets crazy.   Inherent to almost all religious belief is the concept of life after death.   FONVA is very heavily invested in teaching the concept of an afterlife and they devote much study to it — they must have been doing this for tens of thousands of years before they revealed themsleves to man and became FONVA as I know it to be.  There is a physicist — his name escapes me — but he said something on a TV documentary, the one with Morgan Freeman, I don’t remember the name of the show, but as soon as I heard the words I knew he was FONVA.   His theory is a purely mathematical theory that explains that all the dead shall return to life and that return to life will be brought about human beings hundreds of thousands of years in the future.  Sounds crazy when you first hear it but it actually makes sense.  The general theory in FONVA — and this is one of their oldest principles — is that human consciousness is palpable.  It is real and hard and had mass.  Of course the mass is minuscule, but it is mass nonetheless and it survives death.  The day will come when all human minds will be resurrected and returned to consciousness in one form or another.  The reason that the human belief in life after death has been around for thousands of years is easy to explain in that time is a complete illusion as it appears before the human brain.  Do you think that the whole idea of going into the light and meeting dead relatives is a new one?    Trust me, it has been known for quite some time and this was one of the first facts revealed to the scientist who started FONVA.  I would say that the entities behind FONVA are most interested in this because to prove it to humanity will be a very touchy thing.  It might cause chaos.  Would you go to work and save money and contribute to society if you knew that death was a better option?  (laughs) I keep going but I do not fear death.  I do not welcome it either, but I am not typical.

Me:  Who revealed the truths about life and death to the humans at FONVA?

Boris:  I do not want to complicate things so let’s just say that alien beings put the facts before the greatest minds of the day and the whole thing springs from there.

Me:  But when I hear that, I hear that these beings gave these guys a little of that “old time religion” in an attempt to get them to work and further their agenda.

Boris:  No, you are wrong.

Me:  I am wrong?

Boris:  Plainly and bluntly, you are 100% wrong.  Nobody was selling religion to anyone and the alien entities don’t care if you believe in what they show you or not, they simply do what they do and eventually the humans around them start to realize that everything they say is true because they have no reason to lie.  An alien being lying to a human being would be like a human being trying to tell a lie to a cockroach.

Me:  We lie to cockroaches all the time.  We put out food that isn’t really food and they eat it thinking that it’s food and then they die.  So, are we not lying to cockroaches?

Boris:  (laughs) You should work for FONVA and you will see that what you just said is the essence of how human culture is manipulated by alien entities.  Mind you that I say manipulated and not mislead.  Nobody is deprived of free will.   Fonva has determined that human beings are essentially creatures who live in the wild and because of that their life expectancy is short.  FONVA, before it was FONVA, originally revealed themselves as religions icons and such because it’s a way of holding humans captive in a loving and caring way.   And there are captive humans — people who are prisoners of FONVA with no hope of ever being free.  There are human beings who have been captured by aliens for one reason or another.  There are people from FONVA who have not seen the earth as we see it for 40 or more years or those who have died while working with FONVA.  They are captives.  I know one man who was intentionally captured in 1955 and is still working for FONVA.  He has been allowed to watch his family grow old and die.  He has been shown to not fear what he sees because he has also been shown glorious things and in that he finds a kind of comfort people like you donot understand.  His family simply reported him missing after a fishing vacation but the truth is that he was taken, Damien.  Most people who claim to have been taken were temporarily taken so as to mask the identity of a nearby person who was actually taken.  These are the abductions that make the headlines.  Why do they actually take certain people and never return them?  The answer is easy.  Some humans are genetically more advanced than others.  This does not mean that they are smarter than anyone or they have any great enlightenment, but they show a genetic trait that marks them as advanced.  I do not know what the genetic trait is.   The whole idea of the captured human being prodded and probed and injected and inseminated is totally false.  It has never happened.  The idea that it has happened is real in that the memory has been implanted into captive people, but saying that these entities need to do medical exams on ordinary people is absurd.   They know what they know.  The annoying things is that they simply do not tell the people who work with them what they know.  It is up to the human students of FONVA – I call them students — to figure out for themselves and sometimes something that would take 2 minutes to learn if they would just tell you, takes 10-20 years or more even for the most gifted people.  It’s very frustrating and you want to take the little bastards and shake the information out of them.

Me:  So there are actual entities who interact with humans?  You kind of avoided saying that in our earlier interview.

Boris:  Yes, they are actually entities but they are nothing more than teachers or instructors. Yes, they emit green light when they are threatened or they are frustrated.  That’s a long story.  They are very officious and domineering, but like I said, students who stick it out and learn, gradually begin to love and respect the aliens because they share precious information with humans from time to time and when they do this, the students are glorified by this and they learn more and more and more.  If I were in a restaurant, I would say that 9 times out of 10 I can pick out a FONVA person just be looking at them or listening to them.  It’s rare that I see one but they’re out there.  I would say that in the USA there are about 300,000.  You never know who they are but I do — mostly. The woman who talked to me from American Airlines was without a doubt a FONVA student.  I can tell by our conversation that you yourself (Damien) are not FONVA despite the fact that you seem sensitive their information or existence.  Maybe you will be eventually captured or perhaps FONVA will read what you write and be satisfied that you are putting out just enough information and view you as a pastoral person — a missionary of sorts even though you have no idea that you are a missionary for FONVA or what word you are spreading.  (laughs) Your information may or may not vanish from the internet but then it might come back.  It all depends.  The fact that I called you and the Loungemounte family was quick to  talk to you is ample testament to the fact that they like what you are doing, but they’ll keep an eye on you.  Actually, the alien entities will pay no attention to you whatsoever, but the students who have graduated to a certain level will make the decisions.  Sometimes, and this is very strange, sometimes the people who are reading this are more apt to be captured than the person who writes it.

Me:  Why?

Boris:  Because I am saying on this website what I am saying and the person who searches the internet in search of what I am saying might be the person they want — the person with the genetic elevation.  As a regular person I would be more frightened to read this than I would be to write it.  Knowing what I know now I would not be frightened at all, but if you try to tell a regular person that they are going to be taken away by aliens and see if you are not treated with anger or extreme fear.  I would even imagine that the advertisements that Google puts on your website are subliminally not really Google — that is just my intuition.  What tells me that is that some of your ads are not Google and some are — that is unusual, but I can tell that you are not FONVA.  If I am wrong, I would be very surprised.

Me:  Is there anything to fear about being taken or captured?

Boris:  Of course because you are dead in a sense.  You are gone.  You never see your family again in the flesh and even if something horrible is happening in your human world, there is nothing you can do about it.  At times like this, a teacher will show you something that will make you understand.  Again I should say that only a small percentage of FONVA are captive.  Most are free to be as they wish.

Me:  What’s to say that the captives are not drugged into some kind of complacency?

Boris:  There is no reason to do that.  There are many student captives who resist so they are allowed to die and see the results.  Then they bring them back and all is well.  They see the ultimate result of death for themselves and they see it as a wonderful thing even if the manner of death is horrible.

Me:  But it could all be a lie.

Boris:  It is not a lie.  It is real and it happens all the time.  The students who are allowed to live their lives outside of FONVA — which is about 95% — sometimes ask to be enlightened because they can’t deal with the death of a loved one or a life event, but they are not allowed.  These people have to rely on the information given to them by the captives.  Sometimes it works and sometimes they don’t believe the captives who know more.  It doesn’t matter because nobody is bound to FONVA.  They can leave whenever they wish.

Me:  If this is all so secret, why can people just come and go from FONVA?

Boris:  Because nobody would believe them.  I would say that 99% of people will not believe a word of what I say to you.  I don’t care.  I have no artifact that proves I have worked with alien beings who have the power over the life and death of anyone who has ever lived?  That’s the sticking point.  I have nothing — NOTHING – to prove that what I say it true.  Nothing I ever touched while in a FONVA environment moves with me into the human world.  That’s how they get you — like they say in Jerry Seinfeld.

Me:  If I believe you, am I going to get scooped up by FONVA?

Boris:  Odds are that you are not — odds are that 99,9999% of people are not, but like I said, they might like what you do but the US Military might not like what you do — the whole thing is silly because the military has no power over FONVA but still, they might not like what you say.  They don’t really know why they don’t like what you say, they just know that it’s something they would feel better about doing.  It’s like being invited to dinner — what do you do?  You bring a bottle of wine, right?  So, you write about FONVA and alien abductions and reveal military truths about FONVA — what do they do?  They erase it from the internet or they come and talk to you like they are so important and you should fear them.  It’s laughable.  It’s a lopsided kind of comedy of errors.

Me: So before I change the topic, according to aliens, there is life after death?

Boris:  According to what alien entities have taught students at FONVA since the 1950s, death is an illusion and I have no information what they have taught humans since the dawn of time.  Life — living your life – is only a part of the illusion.  Time is an illusion, so when a person dies they see an afterlife — but then you might ask, ‘how can that be if the true resurrection of souls will not happen for at least one hundred thousand years?’  It’s because the resurrection to life is a perfect example of an event horizon.  Everything that has ever happened, or will ever happen, is happening at the same time.  You have no idea how primitive the human brain is.  The brain is primitive, but the mind is not.  There is a huge difference.  Let me just say that everything in your brain is saved for eternity and eventually you get it back.   The trouble is that sometimes the enitities make mistakes.  They are not so great that they do not make errors.  Of course some errors are intentional and some are simply errors.  I am of the belief that all their errors are intentional — like a form of theater.

Me:  Give me an example.

Boris:  The most obvious example would be Roswell or Area 51 –  totally man-made silliness, but between you and me is the incident with the Loungemounte family.  To me it is obvious that they came to capture someone but it got screwed up for lack of a better way to put it.  The messenger in the bell-shaped craft was supposed to take someone and my best guess is that it was Millicent because I never liked her and for me not to like her makes me think that she was ripe for capture.  I have never met a captive who I would have like on a personal level in life.  There is something unlikeable about them — they have an arrogance.  Something about her was very annoying and in my experience, she would be perfect for FONVA.  But then the old man stumbled in and then conveniently died after telling the story about how he saw his dead wife and all that other stuff.  But as real as it all was, it was a staged error.  It was all done on purpose.  It was too easy and too obvious.  In real life the bell-shape vehicle would vanish and nothing would happen other than Milicent would have gone missing sometime in the next year or two.

Me:  So they would not at that moment abduct her per se?

Boris:  Of course not.  Nobody is simply taken away unless they are already a target of FONVA and somehow meet with a bad fate.  In Millicent’s case they would set up a series of events where she would be taken.  The old guys’ story, which is actually true as I have come to know it, was simply added theatrics — but what he said is true.  His story is actually more interesting than the story of the Loungemounte family because his is the first of it’s time.  Nobody seems to realize that.  The hilarity, however,  is the grand stage production of the military coming to take away the alien and the craft.  Let me tell you something.  That craft and that alien vanished with minutes or seconds of being put into military vehicles.  They drove away with nothing.

Me:  Why would they do this?

Boris:  Because it is real in the sense that it all happened and it gives them a reason to flex their muscle.  They know what will happen and that their work will be for nothing, but they have convinced themselves that they are learning about UFOs — in truth they have learned nothing.   It’s a big show.  They know as much about UFO’s now as they did in 1945 — nothing.

Me:  Is there a FONVA now living in the public eye and you are certain that they are FONVA?

Boris:  Yes.

Me:  Can you say who they are?

Boris:  Yulia Tymoshenko, the former Prime Minister of Ukraine.

Me:  She was recently sentenced to jail for 7 years.

Boris:  Yes, but that’s another political show.  She is handcrafted by FONVA and she might have decided to go in the public eye to get some rest.  Sometimes I think she is very high ranking FONVA.  All you have to do is look at her.  well…maybe not you or the average person….but I see it and know it.   I would rather not say the other person.   You can see in Tymoshenko that the truth about death has been revealed to her.  She has altered her beauty so as to be more humble although some see it as a way of placating the average Ukrainian by wearing a native peasant hair style but yet have Paris high fashion.   It makes me laugh but it is so true about FONVA people.  The USA cloaks them.  The UK refines them and the French clothe them.  It’s very much of an art imitating life kind of thing in a demented way.

This is a transcript of my conversation with a man I will call “Boris Jones” simply because his name in Ukrainian culture is so common that a lot of  crazy people might possibly bother a lot of guys with this name.

For the purposes of easy readability, I have altered some of the dialogue only to make what Boris says easier to understand.  He speaks with an accent and leaves out words that would be typical of a guy with a Russian-sounding accent — the old “strong like bull” stereotype.  For example, where he actually said something like, ” Mankind afraid of unknown” I  transcribed it as, “Mankind is afraid of the unknown.”  Otherwise this is the conversation with no edits.  I was “asked” to not print any of this conversation but I’m going to give it a try.  Be patient because this guy talked a mile a minute and he was very careful to leave out no details.  I do not have the time to edit out the minutia.

Me:  When did you come to the USA, and could you elaborate on the circumstances?

Boris: I came to the USA in the summer of 1992.  I was working as a private pilot for a coal mining company.  I still had all my military credentials and the Russian Federation was asking me to stay on with them on active duty.  I feared that the Soviets would regain control so I traveled back from Moscow to Ukraine and met my brother and his wife.  Together we went to France where his wife had family, but after a few weeks I decided to go to the USA or Canada.  I took a trip to New York pretending that it was a vacation.  While I was in New York, I went to  the US Embassy and presented my credentials.  To the credit of the American CIA or whatever organization there is that nobody knows about, they already knew who I was and the coincidence is that they had been looking for me for me since 1990.  So let’s say that I was pushed through the system with only the asking that I live on a military base for 18 months.  They said that if I had a family or small children I would not have been asked this, but who knows?  I was sent to small base in Utah where I piloted a small passenger jet for military brass.  Nothing was unusual.  I lived there and was well-paid.  I became a citizen of the USA in May 1994. (laughs) The fastest I think you can become a citizen.

Me: You said that people at the US Embassy already knew who you were and that they had been looking for you.  Can you explain that more?

Boris:  The people at the embassy – the people who worked there did not know me but after I waited in an inner office for about 20 minutes I was greeted by people from the military who said they were looking for me.

Me:  Why were they looking for you?  Did they elaborate or were they just interested in you because you had been a military pilot in the Soviet Air Force?

Boris:  You make me laugh because you see this as simplistic.  It gets complicated because there is a branch if the military that people do not know about it, but let me say for the purpose of not causing confusion that they knew I had worked with for the Soviets in the same business they were in and that was things that were classified in the Soviet Union.  As soon as the all the hard-line Soviets left Ukraine things got very loose.  They left things in disarray.  Even classified things were thrown about or left in offices that were simply left and rented to private business and private people.  You have to understand that to a Russian and to some Ukrainians it is not stylish to be considered to be Ukrainian.  You had at that time an element of people who wanted to be Russian and while there was still that window of opportunity and the whole world was in a state of flux, many former bureaucrats and their families and friend and neighbors — a lot of people from all over Ukraine – rushed to The Russian Federation before it was even called that.  There were two fears.  To the shallow people – the social climbers and those with money connections in the USA or other parts of Europe, it was important to be a Russian and they jumped at that before the chance was lost.  I have no use for those people and today many of them now live in the USA and have somehow made themselves very rich.  You see these rich Russians running around New York in their big cars and  their children go to Harvard and Yale.  Let me tell you that about half these so called Russians are actually Ukrainians who betray their heritage.  Then you had a group who simply fled Ukraine because they lived in hope that the Communist regime would return.  They still live in Russia and most of them live a life like a regular person or maybe even a life like shit.  I admire those people because they had something inside of them that made them honorable.  I do not like the fact that they wished for the return of Communism.  Nobody hated the Soviets more than I did, but I did my job and never betrayed the Soviets, but when I had a chance to get out of there, I did not wait one second.  I tell a funny story about how I was late waking up and going to miss the train to Kiev where I was going to take a plane to France with my brother and his wife that evening.  I was so anxious to leave that I forgot that I had a dog.  Can you believe that?  I was so happy for weeks and weeks that I was going to leave, that I forgot I had a dog — a good dog I called Shondi ,and what was I going to do with her?  I was sitting on the bed holding Shondi and I was crying for her because I did not know how I could make a life for her with somebody with only two hours of time to find someone to take her.  Finally I decided that I would take the dog with me on the airplane to France.  I arrived at Kiev with the Shondi and nobody said anything.  When I arrived in France with Shondi, again, nobody said anything.  Nobody even paid attention to her.  My brother and his wife had a nice apartment near Paris and the dog lived with me for 2 weeks.  Then when my brother noticed that I was talking a lot about going to the USA he said that I should go and check things out and he would take care of Shondi.  My brother is a good guy.  The next day I called the American Airlines number and made a reservation to fly to the USA.  After I was finished making the booking with the agent, she said to me, ‘Have you made arrangements for your dog?’  I never said anything to her about a dog.  Then she waited a few seconds and said that the airline would handle the dog for me and I flew to New York.  People from the airline met me at the terminal in Paris and put the dog in a nice cage and that was that.  I thought that was very strange.  At the time I was thinking about how smart the American CIA must be to know everything about former Soviets.  It was a crazy notion but at the time it seemed like it made perfect sense to me. (laughs) I thought how lucky the Soviets were that they had walked back into the western society because the USA was so far better with knowledge than they were.  I forgot to metion the important thing about when I talked to the woman who I assumed was a ticket agent for American Airlines.  I told you that I planned my trip to New York as a lie to say it was a vacation and that I bought a round-trip ticket and made a reservation at a hotel — all the things you do for a vacation.  After the agent said that Shondi would be taken aboard the flight, she then asked me if I was sure I wanted a round-trip ticket.  I asked her why she asked me that and she said that maybe I would want to change my mind and that a round trip ticket would not be necessary.  I thought they were trying to trap my in a lie.  There was a pause in our conversation and then she said that if I bought a one-way ticket and wanted to stay a few more days in the USA, I would save money.  That made no sense tome so I played the game with her and and said that I would very much like to save money.  So she said that she would fix that and then she said would you like me to change your hotel reservations at the hotel — she knew the name of the hotel but I have even forgotten that.  I think they were feeling me out as you would say and when I didn’t bite the hook right away they made money an issue.  There is no such thing as an airline that offers you a cheaper fare with a one way ticket and the ability to decide when you want to come home.  Okay the airline business was better then, but you must be serious when you talk about things like that.  I have to laugh at how stupid I was.  I knew what was going on but in my mind I was playing along.  It’s amazing how people who work in US military intelligence know how to tamper with a normal thought process.  In my mind I remember that the Soviets were not very good at anything they did when compared to the USA and I thought that if the Soviet Union had tried to stay intact, the USA would have walked over them in a few years anyway – and all because of my dog Shondi.  I don’t know what I was thinking but I was stupid to not realize that I was a Soviet military pilot.  Of course they would know things about me — but knowing about the dog was just the beginning.  I will tell you that if it had not been for that little dog, I might not be talking to you today.  I might be living in an apartment in Queens working as a private pilot or I would be giving flying lessons.  But I promised myself when I was a teenager that I would never give flying lessons to people.  I am not a good teacher and I have very little patience with students.  I did that in the Soviet Union for about a month and I guess I was a bad teacher because the students complained about me.  Can you imagine that?  Soviet military recruits complaining about their senior officer?  I must have been terrible.  (laughs) But then things got better for me in the USA but the more my life improved socially and economically, the more it remained the same as far as my military knowledge was concerned.  After a few years I felt that I was just the same person I was in the Soviet Union except that Now I had money, a nice car, a nice home and that was good enough for me.  So because of Shondi I almost did not leave Ukraine.  Of course I would have left later but things would have been different.

Me:  You said that there was an intelligence agency that we know nothing about.  Can you talk about that?

Boris:  I can talk about it because nobody would ever believe me but a lot of the Cold War was fake.  Even during the worst of the Cold War the USA and the Soviets worked together in an agency called  FONVA where they worked hand in hand with UFO things.  All kinds of crazy things, and I say UFO things because it’s just an easy way to describe it.  There was never going to be a nuclear war with The Soviet Union like Soviets and Americans always feared.  That was all a show and yes there were political tensions but nobody was going to blow up anybody.  There was too much working together in the background and so much technology was shared.  The difference was that the Soviets were always in a rush and made mistakes.  The Americans were brilliant and methodical so there was a rivalry but nothing that would have caused nuclear war.  When I see movies like Failsafe and Dr. Strangelove, I laugh at how naive the people who made those movies really were — and the world believed them to be geniuses.  To me, now that I know better, it was all childishness.  There is more truth in a movie like The Wizard of Oz than there is in movies about the Cold War.  I am not trying to be comic with what I just stated.  Where was I…the Soviets knew that without American help they would be nothing.  I was told that even when Khrushchev said they the Soviet Union would bury the USA, he got smacked in the face by somebody higher up than he was.  Can you imagine as an American that there was somebody higher than Khrushchev in the Soviet government?  Can you imagine that President Kennedy and now President Obama is not the most powerful man in the USA?  Of course not.  Even now it would be hard to believe because people started all this bullshit about Knights Templar and The Secret Order.  It’s all a bunch of shit.  The truth is that there is a union of all nations — well not actually — and that everything in the papers and on TV is surface dust that means nothing.   I must tell you that when I say all nations, I do not include nations who simply do not count or matter in the eyes of the FONVA government.  The USA rules the world politically like the way the headmaster of a school rules a school.  All of his students secretly despise him, but he doesn’t really care – so do not fool yourself about that.  Countries are not even countries as we know them on a FONVA map.  The whole world is different on that map.  I will give you an example from the times I saw the FONVA map.  Canada and the USA are one country which connects only to Brazil, Chile and Argentina.  Mexico does not exist and none of the other south or central American countries simply do not exist.  They are there as gray areas or blank spots.  Where there is ocean between the USA and Brazil, there is a line of land mass that connects the two.  I was told that those simply indicate routes of travel and have nothing to do with actual land but the person who told me that is now dead from an accident when riding his motorcycle.  There is nothing mysterious about his death, but I mention that he is dead because I would call him and ask him more but I can’t because he is dead.  As I was saying, I don’t know if these are travel routes or they represent actual land that we know as sea and that is hard to make sense about.  Africa only exists in the southern half and a place as important as Egypt does not exist.  Most of the middle east does not exits on their map and that is very strange for me because most of my military career I was flying in around under and over and all ways you can think of around Afghanistan.  Europe is very real on the map but parts of middle and southeast Asia do not exist.  Believe it or not, China is not involved in FONVA.  Maybe they are now, but as recently as 2002 I know that they were not.  I was told that they resist the FONVA but all that tells me is that they are heavily in FONVA but just do not know it.

Me:  You mention a thing called FONVA but you didn’t actually say what it is.

Boris:  FONVA is an alliance that was formed between the USA /UK/ France and The Soviet Union in 1955,  I might be wrong on the year but if I am wrong I am wrong by a year or two.  It is a military alliance that is very strong.  People who hear me say that the USA and The Soviets had a military alliance will assume that I am insane, but there was an alliance.  The only thing that made a line between the USA and the Soviet Union was the outer layer of dummy politics.  The Soviets were not good to their people but the USA was good to their people etc., etc.  That was what the average man would see at the the time.  This did create a lot of political tension but it was all like children fighting in the schoolyard.  FONVA did not pay attention to that kind of thing unless it in some way affected them.  Chernobyl was an example of how FONVA came to the surface and involved themselves but not because they cared about people, they cared only about their own interests and so by accident they helped people.  Chernobyl was an accident and nothing more.  I have to tell you that there are a lot of crazy people who think they know about UFOs and secret government things, but it is all craziness.  It is this simple — there is the world as we know it — you and me – and then there is the world that is run by FONVA.

Me:  Why hasn’t FONVA been exposed?  Where is the money they need to do whatever it is they do?  How do they do it without anyone knowing?

Boris:  You sound now like a typical person when you ask about the money.  What money?  They do not have any use for money.  They simply do what they do.  They have no cost for petroleum or construction or any infrastructure.  Petroleum shortages by the way are a lie.  If the world continued to use petroleum for another 10,000 years at 10x the current rate, it would still not run out of petroleum.  The idea that we will use up all our fossil fuels is absurd.  It will never happen.  FONVA  simply lives and exists as an alliance or almost like a living thing.  They are so deeply entrenched in human life that we don’t even see them.  They are the man next door.  I was FONVA for 6 years of my life but I didn’t even know it.  American Airlines knew it but it was not on a corporate level – it was something else.   Let me tell you an easy way to figure this out because I even confuse myself.  When I called American Airlines, I was not connected to American Airlines.  It had nothing to do with American Airlines, it had to do with me.  American Airlines never got the call but somehow it trickles into American airlines as a passenger with a dog and all the papers are in order and it goes on and on and on.  If I could ever get my hands on a FONVA map of the world, you would understand this better.  FONVA knows all about the little beings in the trees and the green lights and the abductions -which are not actually real by the way but I will explain that later – but they simply accept them and learn from them.  They know far far far more than people who call themselves UFO experts or Investigators.  The difference is like babies in the womb and college professors, but they are still learning but they came to be because another race of beings makes them exist.

Me:  So FONVA is made up of aliens?

Boris:  No.  FONVA is created by alien forces which are not really aliens at all.  Of course they are aliens in the sense that we do not know or understand them — I think so anyway because that was what I was taught.   But in reality they are from here because all there really is is a here and a now because out there in the universe makes no sense — it’s actually all here and the distnaces of the galaxies is an illusion that is beyond our comprehension.  It’s all one thing and humans are gradually being taught that by these entities and the universe.  In the old days they manipulated people with religious visions or freakish weather or whatever crazy thing you can think of.   There was and still is a FONVA leak which may or may not be leaked on purpose, but did you ever hear about the theory that water on earth contains all the information of the human consciousness — that water molecules are really subatomic incredible computers and that the purpose of comets is deposit new water molecules into the earth’s atmosphere?  Water that has not been yet coded like a computer program?

Me:  Yes, I have read a few things about that.

Boris:  It’s all true and that is the only thing that I know FONVA works on night and day that has actually broken through to the surface of human knowledge.  It is important to know that the people who work directly in FONVA burn out quickly because of the constant need to learn and learn more and work.  To be part of FONVA is terrible but then you get moments of enlightenment that are worth the work.   I believe that my neighbors who got taken away by the military are FONVA but it’s all a show.  It is the beginning of FONVA revealing misinformation or information that is not really important.  It is only important that it has happened it is is being noted by people like you and then 100 years from now it will be an accepting like Jesus Christ or any religious icon.  Jesus may have been and early FONVA.  That is good news for Christians or Jews or Muslims or anyone who believes in higher consciousness because that means that everything they believe is, to some extent, true, but only a tiny bit of the truth is revealed at a very very slow pace.  People still live their lives on the words of religious icons, so we have not really come very far, but since 1955 things are moving very quickly.  There has been a rise of Atheism since then and if you study western history, the worst thing you could be was an Atheist.  Now it’s no big deal.  When the American lady Madeline Murray O’Hare was public about her Atheism, she shocked the USA and she was hated — now she would not even make the obituary page if she died preaching her Atheism on top of the Empire State building — nobody cares.  They are wrong not to care because religious beliefs are an intricate part of FONVA.  It’s so hard to explain unless you are there in the belly of the monster and you see for yourself.  I am not saying that if you don’t believe in god you are against FONVA, I am saying that it would be hard to understand some of the things that FONVA does if you are not open-minded about the creation or origins of life.  There will come a time when a godless state of mind will be considered undesirable.  I have been shown things that prove that but I will explain that after I try to explain these more basic things.

Me: You have seen the future?

Boris:  Only in a sense.  Ask me a different question that might lead to why I said that.

NOTE: I will continue with Part 5 tomorrow where Boris talks less nebulously about FONVA.  It is very hard to transcribe this word for word.  Keep in mind that my original transcription took me days and days because I am a terrible typist despite my journalistic credentials, and those transcriptions were lost or deleted or vaporized or whatever.  I gave up trying to figure it out what happened to them.  Funny how the tapes were never taken from me or stolen.   

While I was preparing and organizing the material for part 2 which has now become part 3, I got a few emails that I feel I should address.

I know the location of the hotel and it may have seemed as though I did not.  I am aware of the hotel and while it is an expensive hotel, it is not a name brand hotel in that it is not an iconic New York landmark or anything of that nature.

Also, I am going to address the Ukrainian connection in this summation.  The original draft of this had a lot more information but now I realize that names and certain things should not be mentioned only because they are an intrusion on the privacy of others.  I admire the fact that a woman (first initial K) is doing some internet legwork for me, but I would greatly appreciate if she were to limit her curiosity to what I write about and not to call outside people or agencies and work as an amateur investigator.  I myself am NOT a UFO investigator.  I think if I were, this would not have made it to part 3.  Why do I say that?  I say that because I have been contacted by professional investigators from a network about which many people are quite aware.  I DO NOT want to get involved with this group and I neither want help from them nor will I offer any help to them.  I think they do a lot of shitty work and a lot of their gig is to make money and get on TV.  I am not playing into that.

Part 3:

In May of 2011 I interviewed a man in Belgium by the name of Horas Klempmenter.  He is a retired designer for the now defunct Belgian airline Sabena.  Mr. Klempmenter contacted me after TheDamienZone’s first installment of this story.  It seems that his interest was focused on  the green light which I described in part 1 of this story.  http://thedamienzone.com/2010/12/10/new-jersey-family-has-very-strange-encounter-with-a-ufo-and-an-alien/

Here is a brief transcript of what he said.  He talked for over an hour but most of it was about his opinions and his career and not really pertinent to the story.  He seems like a rather flamboyant “artiste” but he is who he says he is and why on earth would he track me down?  I admit that at the time the article was first put on the blog it was rather easy to find me — I have remedied that very methodically, I assure you.

“The green light and the effect it had on the police you wrote about was brought forth to US and European authorities by aliens, or so I assume or was led to think.” said Klempmenter.

“I was designing a new interior color scheme for the airline when they bought their first Boeing 747′s in 1970.  I was instructed to use only certain shades of green.  The chief engineers showed me a swatch of colors and told me to pick from that small group only.

“I thought it was highly unusual for me to be told by an aeronautics engineer about color because I was given the job in 1966 after my work at the fashion house of Chanel.  I did, however, ask about the color ideas and I was told jokingly that it was the idea of ‘little green men’ then the person who told me that laughed it off as though he was joking with me.

“Later I presented my designs to the people at Boeing as they prepared the interior of the first two planes on order and the person to whom I presented the designs and purchase orders seemed annoyed.  He asked me if I too had been shown a green light by engineers or military personnel.  I said that I had not been shown a green light but that I had been given a small selection of fabric pieces relative to that color and that it was an engineer and not military personal who had given it to me.

“He seemed annoyed and put me on hold for a long time.  Then another person picked up the phone and said that everything was in order.  Two weeks later I got a call from that original person I spoke to at Boeing and he yelled over the phone and accused me of causing him to loose his job.  I said that I had done no such thing but he insisted that I had said something to his superiors about the colors and he was fired.  I did no such thing.  I was only 28-years old at the time and I was so happy to have this great job that the last thing on my mind was to even wonder about the colors.

“Of course I was annoyed that an engineer had interfered with my design because at the time I was young and dedicated to my art as a designer, but I said absolutely nothing to the second man who took the phone.  I simply was asked if everything I presented to Boeing was as it should be and I said it was and that was the end of my conversation.

“When the first Sabena 747 went into service in 1971 it was designed inside exactly as per my design but oddly the exterior color was blue on one jet and an orange-red on the other.  I walked through the new plane — I forget which exterior color plane I was in but both were exactly the same  – and explained to a pilot who was also looking throughout the cabin that green would not have been my choice but I thought that the plane looked very nice in spite of the fact that I’d originally had other plans.  He looked at me and said something to the effect that I was just a kid and that he had been flying for 31 years and he wasn’t going to argue with “UFO people from The United States.”  He turned back and said something like, ‘anyone can make green cabin interiors but can you make them glow?’  Then he walked away.  That was very strange.

“Keep in mind that this happened in 1971 but I remember this like it was yesterday because twice the color implementation was attributed to aliens by two people who most likely did not even know each other and both times it was said rather smugly — as though I was some kind of stupid person.”

I copied this part of the conversation from a tape recording I made on the telephone which I did not realize at the time was costing me a lot of money because it was an international call to my Canadian cellular account and I was unaware that I was paying.  When I got my bill the cost of the call was absurd.  I called the customer service and when I called their customer service, the rep asked me to verify that a certain number has called my phone.  I recited the telephone number and within 10 seconds the charges were simply taken off my bill — no questions asked.  When was the last time something like that has ever happened when one calls one phone company?

Subsequently, I received 4 phone calls from the USA, each from someone who wanted to talk to me about the story and each time when I checked my bill online, the charges were zero.  I did receive a phone call from a cousin in Yuma, Arizona regarding a family event and I was charged full freight for the call.  At the time I had a Facebook account for which I was totally unsophisticated about privacy settings.  Stupidly, my phone number was on that profile and people kept calling.  Finally a friend of mine told me that I could not simply live in the USA with a Canadian cell phone and expect not to pay outrageous bills.  I have now changed to an American cell contract but I also maintain the Canadian account.

Also, I should mention here that I have received many private emails telling me that the Google links to these articles or to the website in general warn them of a Trojan virus.  This is very annoying to me but I am not at all surprised that something like that would happen.  This website is handled by a topflight server and there is no way that anything one clicks on here is viral in any way, but like any visit to any website, I would be scared off as well, but as far as I know and as far as friends who have gone over the site with a fine toothed comb, there is nothing wrong with this site.

I mentioned at the start of this that I was going to address the Ukrainian connection to all of this, but I decided to wait and get an IT friend to make sure the Trojan virus thing was a bunch of baloney.  Now that I am sure it is, I am going on.

PART 3  – Cont. 11:10am 2 January 2012.  (originally posted as Part 17 January 2011)

Most people are unaware that Ukraine is the largest country in all of Europe and as far as any living person is concerned ( save for people born after 1990) we knew it as “The Ukraine” in that it no longer existed as a country but rather as an area of the Soviet Union.  In the Tom Cruise version of “War Of The Worlds” there were many cringe-worthy moments in the film where TV newscasters referred to Ukraine as “The Ukraine” — and it pissed off a lot of Ukrainian people.  They’d finally got their country back after a century of oppression by the Communists and still Hollywood was passing along to millions of people that Ukraine was still simply a part of Russia.  They are not.  Hollywood continues to do this and they don’t seem to want to stop.  Do they like the way “The Ukraine” sounds, or is there another motive?

Ukraine was the country where all the great Soviet athletes came from back when the Olympics were fun to watch and the world was trembling in the wake of US/Soviet tensions.  Also, Ukraine is VERY active inasmuch as UFO activity is concerned.  Anyone who is a devout follower of UFO lore will know that some of the strangest UFO stories have come out of Ukraine both during and after the Soviet rule.

One thing that sticks out in my mind is that a barrage of UFO sightings in Ukraine may have been the catalyst that led to the disbanding of the Soviet Union.  Some readers will see the connection and others will scoff at it, but it is rather noteworthy that the USA and the UK went from having a very chilly relation with Ukrainian officials (Soviets) to having a really cozy one with Ukraine quite literally overnight.  The US relationship with Russia overall remains cold, but Ukraine became an instant friend.  I am not an expert in that field by a long shot, but people who know these kinds of things say that the American relationship with Ukraine is indeed a strange one and lot of that has to do with the fact that Ukraine was the Soviet Union’s UFO hub and they were really bad at keeping secrets.  In other words, there was already an hidden relationship between the two countries but the US did not want to share that with the Soviets.  They were however happy to share it with Ukrainians.  I know this sounds convoluted but think about it this way.  Let’s say that you despise your neighbors and you would love to see them move away, but you really like the guy who rents their upstairs apartment.  You have a friendship with the guy upstairs, but it’s secret and separate from your relationship with the landlord.  Then one day the landlords leave and the guy upstairs buys the house.  Suddenly you have a great friend next door and the guy upstairs goes from being simply “the guy upstairs” to the friend who owns the house next door.  That’s essentially what happened in Ukraine.

Okay, so now we return to the original event in New Jersey: As soon as the Loungemounts were taken away to their secret digs in NYC, the United States called in a bunch of people from Ukraine?  Why?  Why is the UK involved?  Perhaps many countries are involved but the Ukrainian presence is rather glaring and odd.  Why not the French or the Germans?  I got an answer when I spoke to a former Soviet Air Force pilot who is Ukrainian.  he now refers to himself as a Ukrainian pilot but he is no longer, at age 58, a military pilot in any capacity.  I would mention his name but he asked me to wait until he publishes his book in 2013.  His name doesn’t matter anyway because his name is such a common one that it means nothing.  Let’s just say that his name in Ukrainian language would be like being John Jones in the English speaking  world — catch on?

For that purpose I will call him Boris Jones just to lighten things up a bit.

Boris Jones is a highly trained pilot who fought in the air during the Soviet war with Afghanistan.  He was badly wounded in that conflict and nearly died after a 7-month stay at a hospital in Kiev, Ukraine.   Guess who lives behind the Loungemounte family?  You guessed it — Boris Jones.  He no longer lives there and he spoke to me very casually about it.  His take was that the incident that evening in New Jersey was hardly unique and that when he was in the Soviet military he had seen the same bell-shaped objects lodged in trees throughout the entire Soviet Union and as far east as western Ukraine.  He had once piloted a helicopter where an alien was taken from such a craft and carried away in a canvas bag — the same way the US military dragged away the green glowing creature from the Loungemounte home.  Boris Jones seemed very unimpressed with the story other than to note that the US military knew instantly to knock on his door and ask him to make himself available.  The following day, Boris was taken via a corporate Lockheed jet (sound familiar?) to an area outside of Washington DC.

I will print a copy of the transcript from my conversation with “Boris Jones” in the next part of this which I will put up later.  It seems that putting this story up in dribs and drabs is working.  I am sorry for anyone who is interested but I am not intentionally making this a cliff-hanger kind of thing.  It’s just the way I feel better about it.  I don’t make money off of this and my advertisement hits are so small that even if a million people were to read this story, I would make about $100.

The interview with Boris Jones is rather long but VERY interesting.http://thedamienzone.com/2012/01/03/new-jersey-family-unexplained-ufo-part-4-conversation-with-boris-jones/